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To avoid spamming the general blog page with the Player Value posts for each season/team, this blog page will serve as a separate listing of all of the Player Value posts for each season/team. These posts will be less detailed, mainly just listing out the top players each season and including the necessary files.
In this post I will list out the All-Time Cleveland Guardians franchise lineup, according to Player Value. I will follow along the same format as MLB uses with its new "All-MLB" teams, which you can view here. That format is 1 player for each defensive position, 5 starters, and 2 relievers. I will only use DHs for AL teams, since most NL teams don't have enough seasons with the DH to really have a deserving player. Note that this includes all years that the Guardians franchise has been located in Cleveland, from 1912-2021. That means as the Cleveland Naps from 1912-1914, and as the Cleveland Indians from 1915-2021. Because they were named the Indians for most of this span, the data files included below have "Indians" in their name. However, since the team switched to the Guardians in 2022, that's the name I've used for this post's headline. Cy Young is obviously one of the greatest pitchers in history, but his entire career was before 1912, when I don't have Player Value. He never actually played for the Guardians franchise, but he did play for the Cleveland Spiders from 1890-1898, so shout out to him. I think Napoleon Lajoie is one of the greatest players of all-time. He ranks extremely well when I've applied Player Value prior to 1912, but the values are overall not consistent enough (especially on the pitching side of things) for me to be comfortable sharing them. He was already a stud for the Philadelphia Athletics in 1901 (when he led the league in basically every category), so much in fact that the Cleveland franchise named their team after him. He played for the Cleveland Broncos for part of 1902, but then Nap Lajoie played for the Cleveland Naps from 1903-1914. His last season was 1916. Since most of his prime was before 1912 and he doesn't appear on the all-time team, I think Lajoie deserved a shout out as well. He did have respectable 41 and 30 Player Value seasons in 1913 and 1912, ranking 12th and 15th respectively among Guardians 2B seasons. He was ages 37 and 38 in those seasons. Importantly, and as the graphic above suggests, these are based on individual seasons according to Player Value. The question we want to ask here is which version of a player would we want on our team? I want to give guys that only played a few seasons with a team an equal chance at making the lineup as the guys that spent their entire careers with one team. All-Time Team Total Player Value: 849.1278 (6th in AL, 11th in MLB)
All-Time Team Pitching Value: 247.4081 (4th in AL, 5th in MLB) All-Time Team Fielding Value: 211.5703 (7th in AL, 9th in MLB) All-Time Team Baserunning Value: -10.4470 (13th in AL, 28th in MLB) The All-Time Guardians are towards the top compared to the other franchise all-time teams. Their strongest area is their pitching, and primarily their starters. They rank solid at Pitching Value and overall, so the Guardians pitchers are pretty well rounded. Ace Bob Lemon had 12 Batting Value, 33 Pitching Value, and 15 Fielding Value. In addition to leading the league in shutouts and innings pitched while going 20-14 with a 2.82 ERA, he also hit 5 HR and 9 2B with a .818 OPS across 129 PA - not bad for a pitcher. The perhaps better known Bob Feller had 50 Pitching Value, but -3 Batting Value and -4 Fielding Value. He won the pitching Triple Crown, leading the league with 27 wins, a 2.61 ERA, and 261 strikeouts. He had just a .481 OPS across 129 PA. The other strong Guardians area is their infield, led by the fantastic seasons from Boudreau and Rosen. Their worst area is their Baserunning Value, mainly from Odell Hale's -5 Baserunning Value in 1934, when he stole 8 bases but was caught 12 times. Here is how the players on the all-time team compare in terms of their Player Value components: The team is led by Lou Boudreau and Al Rosen, each with 80+ Player Value seasons. Rosen won the AL MVP in 1953 after leading the league in HR, RBI, runs scored, slugging, and OPS. It was a stellar 10.1 WAR season. Boudreau's AL MVP season was actually in 1948, not 1944. Boudreau's Player Value in 1948 was also exceptional at 86, split between 59 Batting Value and 27 Fielding Value. However, his 89 Player Value in 1944 is slightly higher, with 45 Batting Value and 44 Fielding Value. WAR has Boudreau at 8.0 in 1944 but at 10.4 in 1948, not appreciating his defense in 1944 as much. Either way, Boudreau is pretty clear cut as the Guardians' all-time single season SS. View the file below to see the numerical values of the Player Value components for each player on the all-time team:
View the files below to see the Player Value components, hypothetical awards based on Player Value, and general statistics for each player season and position (if you're wondering how another player that isn't on the all-time team fares, this is the place to look). Again, these files have "Indians" in their name because that was primarily the name of the franchise from the 1912-2021 span that I have Player Value for.
And that's it! I'm trying to make these posts shorter and just focus on sharing the all-time teams themselves and necessary data files. If you want to investigate an individual season for a player on the all-time team, I encourage you to check out their page on Baseball Reference.
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