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To avoid spamming the general blog page with the Player Value posts for each season/team, this blog page will serve as a separate listing of all of the Player Value posts for each season/team. These posts will be less detailed, mainly just listing out the top players each season and including the necessary files.
In this post I will list out the All-Time Giants lineup, according to Player Value. I will follow along the same format as MLB uses with its new "All-MLB" teams, which you can view here. That format is 1 player for each defensive position, 5 starters, and 2 relievers. I will only use DHs for AL teams, since most NL teams don't have enough seasons with the DH to really have a deserving player. This includes all years from the Giants franchise since 1912, meaning the New York Giants from 1912 to 1957 and the San Francisco Giants from 1958 to 2021. You can view the New York Giants specific all-time team here. You can view the San Francisco Giants specific all-time team here. Importantly, and as the graphic above suggests, these are based on individual seasons according to Player Value. The question we want to ask here is which version of a player would we want on our team? I want to give guys that only played a few seasons with a team an equal chance at making the lineup as the guys that spent their entire careers with one team. If you had to give this NL team a DH spot, you would probably go with either Jeff Kent in 2000, who was mainly a 2B, or Willie McCovey in 1969, who was mainly a 1B. Kent has the highest Batting Value season by a player not already on the all-time team, at 58.99. McCovey's Batting Value is the 2nd most in a season by a player not already on the all-time team, at 52.21. Kent's Batting Value is probably higher than McCovey's due to the positional comparison; relative to other 2B, Kent was more valuable than McCovey was relative to other 1B. But since we're talking about using one of these guys as the DH, such relative value is not as important. In an absolute sense, McCovey was perhaps the better hitter. Jeff Kent won the NL MVP in 2000 and hit 33 HR with 125 RBI and a .solid 334/.424/.596/1.021 line, along with a 162 OPS+ and 58 Rbat. McCovey won the NL MVP in 1969 and hit 45 HR with 126 RBI and a .320/.453/.656/1.108 line, along with a 209 OPS+ and 67 Rbat. Note that Mel Ott in 1938 actually had the top 3B season, but I didn't want to have any duplicate players on the all-time team. Ott in RF in 1929 provided more value over Ross Youngs in RF in 1920 than Ott at 3B in 1938 provided over Freddie Lindstrom at 3B in 1928. Thus, Ott was kept in RF and Lindstrom was inserted at 3B. All-Time Team Total Player Value: 870.6469 (1st in NL, 3rd in MLB)
All-Time Team Pitching Value: 236.5404 (3rd in NL, 9th in MLB) All-Time Team Fielding Value: 206.1150 (4th in NL, 11th in MLB) All-Time Team Baserunning Value: 7.7277 (5th in NL, 6th in MLB) The All-Time Giants are one of the best teams in history, and the best in the NL. Their outfield unit also ranks as the best in NL history, and includes 3 members of the 500 home run club. When Ott retired in 1947, he was 3rd on the all-time HR list, with 511, and the all-time NL HR leader. Mays would become the all-time NL HR leader in 1966, and retired with 660 in 1973 for the 3rd most all-time. Bonds retired in 2008 with 762 home runs, the all-time NL and MLB leader. The Giants all-time outfield is simply unreal. The Giants all-time team doesn't really have a weakness, much their worst area are their pitchers, who rank average. Here is how the players on the all-time team compare in terms of their Player Value components: The team is led by all around superstars Bonds and Mays with 103 and 84 Player Value respectively, as well as by Hall of Fame middle infielders Jackson and Hornsby, also with 84 Player Value each. View the file below to see the numerical values of the Player Value components for each player on the all-time team:
View the files below to see the Player Value components, hypothetical awards based on Player Value, and general statistics for each player season and position (if you're wondering how another player that isn't on the all-time team fares, this is the place to look):
And that's it! I'm trying to make these posts shorter and just focus on sharing the all-time teams themselves and necessary data files. If you want to investigate an individual season for a player on the all-time team, I encourage you to check out their page on Baseball Reference.
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